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PostSubject: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:09 am

Original post July 26th. I collected some dew and mixed it with rainwater from a thunderstorm. Rather than juggling projects within the same stream I decided to create another thread. The following 4 photos are of the latest dew project I'm working on. I mixed 1000ml of dew with approx 600ml of rain water (From a thunderstorm). I hope I my efforts aren't in vain. I had it in the garage in an oak bucket with a cover over it for about 5 days then realized I was supposed to boil it 1st! 2nd Error? I literally boiled it not distilled. 6 days after boiling there is alot of fuzzy stuff that wasn't forming before! Question...should I continue with this project? I'm concerned that when I boiled it the spirit may have escaped from the lid of the crock pot since nothing was sealed.Photobucket" border="0" alt="" />Photobucket" border="0" alt="" />Photobucket" border="0" alt="" />Photobucket" border="0" alt="" />
I hope the fuzzy stuff is a good sign. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated guys!
August 16th:
Standing for about 3 weeks covered in the Garage.

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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:33 am

Here are the latest Photos of the dew & thunderstorm rain.















It's been fermenting since lat July. It's gone through some amazing changes over the months! On the bottom of the bucket the water looked like a clear thick gelatin.
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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:51 am

I fixed your images. When you post an image, all you need to do is put the letters "img" inside brackets like this [xxx] then put the URL for the image, then put a backslash in the closing tag [/xxx]

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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:58 am

Kevin, it indeed looks like your rain water/dew is ready! There is no doubt in my mind that you will be able to get the proper salt out of it for using on metals to convert them into the glass-like Stone.

It will be wonderful to see the next photos as you make the salt, especially since I've neglected to provide any so far.

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I'm not sure if you need to include all that nasty stuff that was floating on the surface, or if you are supposed to filter it out. On the one hand, I think the moldy mess could provide some material for making the salt, and on the other hand, it could just be useless, except for the fact that it helped turn the dew dark and "processed" the dew water for you. That might be its only purpose -- to work on the dew and change the chemical make-up of the water so it converts something in the water to something else.

I've never seen dew water turn that color because I've always kept mine in a sealed flask. But that color is a sign that your water is basically guaranteed to give you the correct salt you need for transforming ordinary metal into an extraordinary glass-like material that alchemists have labelled the Philosopher's Stone.

It's a beautiful thing, because no you should be able to make the Stone by the Dry path in less than a week, all depending on how fast you can distilled the water to get the spirit and purify the salt, then combine the spirit and salt.

You shouldn't use all the water for just the Dry path. You should save some for the Wet way also, so you can see the beautiful color changes that happen to the gold over many months.

But if you have access to a kiln or furnace that can melt gold, you can do the Dry path with the salt and have the Stone instantly.

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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:32 pm

THATS SPLENDID KEVIN!!!!! You say it only took a week to get there? The water looks just like how reusenstein describes it. I've had my dew in a barrel for nearly 50 days. it was collected from may to noverber and boiled down from 4 liters to barely 1 liter. My dew should be well putrified by now for any process. At first I was thinking of doing reusensteins dew alkahest but I'd like to learn more about what Nick speaks of in his book before I do anything.

If my dew is correctly putrified then it feel i am very close to the stone and its medicinal benifits.


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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:28 pm

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I couldn't recall if I was supposed to pour everything into the flask, but as I do so often I have to consult my inner voice...is it my spirit guide?... My works have been purely hands on as I have very little experience. I am aware of a thin vale that surrounds me and limits much of my understanding. Your words are always encouraging thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:17 pm

yeshua wrote:
THATS SPLENDID KEVIN!!!!! You say it only took a week to get there?


No, he's been fermenting that dew since July, so it's been 5 or 6 months, not just a week.

My comment was that since he now has this dark dew water, he can make the Stone in less than a week, because all he has to do is the distillation process and the purification of his crystals as I wrote it in my book. But it will require the intense heat of a propane furnace like the ones sold at A&B Prospecting to melt the silver or gold with the crystals to convert the metal into the Stone.
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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:09 pm

I took my dew out of the barrel today. It smelled strongly of oak almost like alcohaul. It was dark brown with a strange black jelatinous slime and a very thick dark color. Does it sound like its ready for the fast reusenstein method or should I let it ferment longer? And do you think I should filter out the slime when I distill? Resuenstein never mentions it so I'd assume no since in similar processes like in thunder rain he says to distill with the rain worms or in nicks book the white mold contains the salts. Besides I doubt there'd be any caput mortem without it.

I'll probly distill in a day or to. Very excited.

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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:28 pm

I was doing some reading about putrid urine on a waste treatment site and they claimed that the ammonia salts in the putrid urine will form white masses on the top that they said was ammonium chloride.

http://www.lenntech.com/chemistry/ammonia.htm

The crystallized chloride is more or less discolored by tar, and is purified by sublimation in iron or earthen ware pots or retorts. The ammonium chloride collects on the cover of the pot as a thick, fibrous cake, in which form it comes in trade under the name of sal-conmoniac. This generally contains iron as an impurity. It was formerly made by subliming the soot obtained by buring dried camel's dung, but is now nearly all made from gas liquor. The crystallized salt is often sold under the name of "muriate of ammonia," and is usually less pure than sal-ammoniac: lfuriate of ammonia is much used in the arts for charging Leclanche electric batteries; in the process of " galvanizing" iron; in soldering liquors; for making" rust cement" for pipe joints; and in textile coloring. Ammonium carbonate as found in commerce is not a pure salt, but is a mixture of acid ammonium carbonate (NH4. HCOs) and a salt of carbamic acid (NH2· CO2, NH4). The commercial salt is made by heating a mixture of the sulphate and powdered calcium carbonate in iron retorts. The vapors are condensed in lead-linell chambers, and the impure product is generally sublimed in iron pots having lead caps. A little water is put into each pot along with the salt, this causing the sublimed product to be transparent instead of opaque white. The temperature of this second sublimation is not much above 70° C.
Ammonium carbonate is transparent when fresh and pure, but on exposure to the ail', becomes covered with a white layer of bicarbonate, owing to the loss of ammonia. It is entirely volatile when heatedl, and from this fact is derived its old name of sal-volatile. It is used considerably in wool scouring, in certain baking powders, in medicine, and for the preparation of "smelling salts," and to some extent, as an analytical reagent.
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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:11 am

Hello
this is dew collected in June i boiled it and then put some oak sticks in . i think this is ready to ether distill or just evaporate the way Nike is going to do.. but i don’t know yet which one i will do..



this is thunder rain collected in June i think this is ready too




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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:00 pm

Hey guys! Here are some photos of the salts that have formed. I think I need to ad some distilled water and continue to refine the salts.
I can see clear crystals within the dark mass.
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PostSubject: Great photos with the oak   Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:55 pm

Dear Kevin,

These photos you have up are amazing. It is great to see how the oak does indeed cause the water to turn a deep brown black color. I only ended up seeing them today since I was offline during January. I have yet to see these colors when using dew or sea salt in dew that has been left alone over a few months.
I'm very happy you posted these, as it helps me to confirm a few things in the processes that I haven't yet seen.

I want to add a few photos of the salts I've obtained so that you (and anyone) can have a point of reference for "looks" and perhaps for smell (though not sure that will be at all the same).

The first is an image of dew salt obtained after a sizable amount of dew has evaporated. It smells quite a bit like honey, and is white but has a faint yellow color to parts of it.



The second is a photo of a similar dew salt, but this one used a bit more nitre from a cold pack. I fermented this one for over 2 months with the spirit from dew (only distilled two times though as I recall, at that time I didn't know it needed to be super refined).



After experimenting with both, I was able to obtain a white material from silver, and a red from gold. The trouble is, I've yet to be able to make these materials dissolve with the dew salt and spirit.

I think that perhaps I need an alcohol or some mix of something with it to make it work. (Sal Alkali?)

At any rate, perhaps the colors of these will help in comparing with what you have and with what you will obtain when refining your material.

All my best,

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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:33 pm

Those are some nice pictures of the dew salt. I'm wondering if you would be willing to shed more information on how you used this to make the red powder from sol. If your dew salt alkahest won't dissolve it it's probably because your salt hasn't been properly converted into the sweet compound like I think it's supposed to (in the leydon method). If it's trouble doing this you may want to try using the alkahest from distilled GW instead. I've heard a lot of good things about it from a friend of mine.

At any rate, I believe this white salt from dew which you show pictured bonifaesh is the same white substance which caused some rain to actually look milky which fell over New Mexico a few years ago.

http://able2know.org/topic/110400-1

I believe this milky substance was called Manna in the Bible and something about the Ark of The Covenant would cause more of this substance to appear in the dew around the tabernacle.

That having been said, I'm sure the Philosopher's Stone can come from a lot of things but one thing I'm pretty sure it doesn't come from is mold. But is that what you referenced to in your book Nick? Using mold??? If you could put the free version back online I would appreciate it so I can double check this because I'm pretty sure mold is something that you always want to avoid if you can. It might get in the way of normal putrefaction as I believe that putrefaction causes new life forms to emerge from the matter itself which then decays the matter, as opposed to mold which is a higher life-form that got in from the outside and is not really a part of "the matter."

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PostSubject: Re: Dew & Thunderstorm rain   Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:17 pm

No I never mention using mold in any of my books, and the old book that was free is obsolete and a waste of time, so I won't put it back online. I'm surprised you still haven't read the 2nd edition of the Covenant of Silence. Even if you don't have money for it, I'm surprised you haven't been sent an illegal copy of the eBook like most people have.
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PostSubject: red gold   Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:02 pm

Hi Field, and anyone curious.

I've obtained the red sol by two methods, one is using the gold in a small amount and melting with the salt. This gives me a red material but it's usually only on the surface of the gold. The second is dissolving the gold in the alkahest, boiling it down (so it's still a bit suspended in the salt, it looks goldish). After boiling it down I calcine that salt at above 800C (not always to melting point of gold). At that point the material turns red (what was yellow) and is left as a precipitate once dissolved in dew spirit.

Both methods tend to give me the same thing. I get a red sol that then gives off this oil of sorts that floats on the water but doesn't fully dissolve. I think it needs to be worked with more to get to a glassy state (or maybe I need to be more persistent).
I've tried this oil by putting the sol in water and taking a few drops of the water in a bigger glass. It's potent stuff.

I've found, oddly, that the darker red sol is the stuff that doesn't dissolve, the lighter stuff (often bordering on pinkish/purple) dissolves readily. So, basically I think that is the stuff.

Anyway, I think I may need to do more melts or apply another material to get it to dissolve fully. I do appreciate your feedback a great deal.
I'm thinking of using paracelsus' alkahest, trying to concentrate the dew more, or perhaps using the gw solvent (with the clear salt and spirit). I seem to have far less time than I used to to work on alchemy, and the processes are more involved now when I'm working on things (more dissolutions, more contianers, evaporations etc.), so I've been hoping to do this for a week or two now.

Hope you are all well. I'll post photos of the red material when I get it to dissolve :-) (as it is now it just looks like dark red dust) (that and my camera needs to be fixed).

all my best,

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